10-28-2011? The End of Astrology too?

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I just finished reading Calleman’s book on the Mayan Calender.

Prior to that I finished Barbara Hand Clow’s book that she wrote to discuss Calleman’s book.

Daniel Pinchbeck’s book titled: 2012 adds a few different twists to the unfolding story.

According to some of these modern-day prophets & wizards, the Mayan’s really knew what they knew and their pyramids, writings, and most especially their calendars were amazing, physical testaments of their knowledge.

The Mayan Calendar is a  time-measurement tool that is tracking “spiritual” time……and their-in lies the dilemma. Our entire, planetary culture  has lost it’s ability to perceive’s what spiritual time’ is, with a few notable, exceptional, people.

But, don’t worry, be happy. We’ll understand soon. It’ll be right on time.  We’re now at the end of what they call, Day 5….a time of transitioning, a mid-point as such.

We can see the forks in the road, clearly. It is time to make conscious choices that improve the wellbeing of all beings………..or not.

Night 5 of the current ‘Underworld’ of the Mayans, begins this November and continues until Nov.2008  Day 6 begins Nov.08.

By Oct. 28, 2011 according to Calleman the Mayan Calendar ends.

What’s sooo interesting  to me about this is that the same time cycles appear in the calendars of the early Vedic Culture and they lived at least half a planet away from the Mayans. Similarities and synchronicities abound between the yogi’s and the mayans.

Whose calendar do you follow?

Why?

And more importantly;

Will Astrology be necessary after 2012?

Om shanti, shanti, shantihi…………………….

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63 thoughts on “10-28-2011? The End of Astrology too?

  1. Hello Everyone……
    Sorry to disappoint but I have disabled the comment stream for this post. Thanks for visiting The Teacher’s Journal.

  2. hey there! It all might sound strainge but i heard a voice in my sleep that said ‘he is coming on the 21st day of may’
    My curiosty got the better of me and i typed in the full date on google search and somehow ended up here! And now im very freaked out!
    Why? Because i do not consider myself a god botherer! I dont even recall reading any of the bible in my 29 years here!
    Whatever all this means i do know one thing! The world is seriously changing!

  3. Re: 11/11/2011. Could be my best birthday yet! Whether the numbers are right or not, Jesus did not die on that cross for nothing. The Salvation He gave us is the best present we could ever receive if we only ask. That’s all – just ask, believe and receive. God does not lie. So, I will watch and be ready on all days and pray that all of you will also. Hope to see you in Heaven!

  4. Well, my son converted from Christianity to being a Seikh and he has been talking about the end of the age and the end of the Mayan Calendar for some time. . Interestingly, when Narnia came out at Christmas the billboard I saw was a Lion head, with mane, snow flakes, and the only text was “He Returns”. Of course, being a basfc, I took great delight in the subtlety/significance of that message. A couple weeks ago on the same billboard I see a “He Returns” sign with the date May 21, 2011. No coincidence there.

  5. hi – im new, heir by reserch. in june the lord notified me – the enemy has moved up the time -ie – Russia – China – i seas how long lord – he said 11 months. thus = may 0f 2011. so im reserching this date time for prophecies in that regard to WW3. and so i wouldnt be looking – or reserching this time. if i had no faith in Gods word – to look.

    Dave

  6. It makes sense to me that ancient people did not have the intelligence to figure the real and natural cause of events…so they used religion and called it the work of the gods (or god). We do have the inteligence. I hope the more we learn and the more inteligent we become that the ignorance of this blaming a “god” for everything will secede.
    We are smarter, more evolved, more inteligent that our ancestors. A god is not going to “send” a galaxy or planet to orbiut every 7000 years just to teach us a lesson. WE ARE NOT THAT IMPORTANT!!! The universe was made that way and a single God or being has nothing to do with it. Shrink you head.
    Question: For how many years before and for how many years after man’s existance on this planet will this 7000 year orbit conitue.
    If you believe in god then put the bible down and ask your god to show you the truth. You don’t need a book to get it. To much misinformation and mistranslation in that book.

  7. Hi Will, Thanks for sharing all that. I appreciate all the work/research/time you have spent on this issue. I will keep you updated with what I’ve been up to, I’ve just been very busy at work lately.

    If you want a good, interesting and informative read – But very long time consuming one, please read the thread by ET MAN, with the title Warnings From The Benevolents! on the website: http://www.abovetopsecret.com.

    Some of the info is hard to believe, but it supports a lot of my own research and many others as well. Also note that his heart and mind is in the right place.

    This is information by “ET MAN” is very closely related to much scientific study and past /up to date evidence.

    Peace
    Chris

  8. Hello again everyone. Just doing my usual visit to see if there are any interesting comments. I see you have done your homework Chris. I wasnt aware that the flyby was expected on Oct 11th. I cant help notice that number eleven again. Whatever the actual day is it stills lands in 2011. Though I cant validate Planet X, it makes for the perfect suspect. It fits perfectly into biblical and non biblical information pertaining to “The end”.

    If this was just a cataclymic event that we must somehow survive I would not be living in New York waiting for it to happen. I would be finding higher ground in-land stock piling cans of perishables for the difficult years ahead. lol. However if there is a God, then surely he is in control of everything and His Will will come to pass reguardless of what we try to do.

    Since my last visit I do have some new material to share with you in my study of “The End”. As mentioned in my previous posts 2011 is the final year. I just finished studying numerology and how it fits with the biblical end time date. What I found was very interesting. I learned that the number 11 is the most powerful number in numerology. It is the “Master Number”. The number 11 in the bible has always represented Jesus Christ, who is also the Master, because it was exactly 11,000 years from creation that He was born. Coincidence?? If this information is true then its no wonder that Christ is suppose to return in 2011.

    Not to mention the 11:11 phenominon. People from around the world keep noticing this number everywhere they go. Why??? I believe its because it represent the year 2011. In the bible when a number is doubled it means that God is being emphatic that it surely will come to pass. So 11:11 is God being emphatic about this year. Amazingly the 9/11 disaster was screaming out the number eleven for some reason. Google it yourself. Concidentely it will be the 10th anniversary of the 9/11 disaster in 2011. If Oct 21, 2011 is the last day of time, its very close to the date 11/11/2011. Notice the three elevens.

    I also came across a Jewish holiday that lands exactly on Oct 21, 2011. Every year it lands on a different day or week of the monh. Its called the Simhat Torah. Whats interesting about this Holiday is that its the only holiday that calls for the reading of the scrolls specifically with a scipture from the Old Testament Genesis 1:1 “In the begining God created the heavens and the earth”. Well that is incredibly significant because in the end, Oct 21, 2011, God destroys the heavens and the earth! Coincidence??? I think not! The overwelming evidence keeps reinforcing this year. Whatever it was that you wanted to do before you die you should do it now! There is only 14 months left before it all starts to unfold. May 21, 2011. May God have mercy on us all. Peace

    • whats funny about this is my name is christopher lloyd jackson if you notice christopher = 11 letters and the last part 12 which altogether is 23 letters i never noticed that till now 23=judgemnt and death and also i turn 25 may the 20th 2011 and have always felt for some strange reason that i wouldnt live past 25 someone explain that.

  9. Hi Will. It looks like you have been busy researching. I have as well. Have you found the latest information on Planet X? It is actually a Brown Dwarf Star, refered to as “Wormwood” in Revelations.

    Many people, including an unnamed Australian Astro-Physicist know that “Wormwood” is well on it’s way and should pass on or around October 11th, 2011.

    As you mentioned, NASA did find it and then revoked statements. The new telescope in Antarctica was built specifically to track this Brown Dwarf. The Star will approach from the Southern Hemispher.

    Only a select few, multi-million dollar INFRA-RED scopes can locate Brown Dwarfs because they admit no or very dull light.

    This Star is NOT a Planet, but in ancient times it would have looked like one to the many cultures that have recorded it’s passes throughout history.

    I wasn’t aware of the Global Earth Quake that could happen in May, 2011, but IF that does indeed happen, it is related to the Brown Dwarf affecting our Planets Poles. This Star will also cause a “Pole Shift” as well.

    According to my sources, this isn’t the end of the world or Judgment Day, but it will be the end of our way of life as we know it. If you want some more info let me know and I can send you some links to your email.

    As a last note, I do Believe in God, and I believe God will be judging us at some point, but I also believe in E.T Beings aswell, due to my own experiences and common logic – God would not create just humans in a universe that is so large and uncharted yet (by humans).

    My sources tell me that E.T Beings will help the human race after the events of October 11th-October 28th 2011.

    Cheers,
    Chris

  10. This is the last part of my message;

    It is also believed that God will carry out His judgment through a planetary fly-by of the infamous ‘Planet X’ also called ‘Nibiru’ as foretold by the ancient Sumerians which will cause cataclysmic events on earth of biblical proportions. In my study of the bible, God has always used natural disasters to fulfill His will for and against mankind. I recently discovered an event to come that would fulfill all the prophecies of Judgment Day in the bible. In 1983 NASA has published an article in the Washington Post that they have discovered a ‘Planet X’ in an elongated orbit around our solar system.
    http://www.planet-x.150m.com/washpost.html.

    http://www.detailshere.com/niburu.htm

    What’s very suspicious is they immediately recanted their find claiming it was a mistake. If this does happen it would destroy everything on earth! That being the case, the implications of allowing the public to know about this would only bring about panic. There would be no way of any government to keep there powers intact after such a catastrophe. It is also believed that all world governments are preparing themselves to survive this event even as we speak and even built an observatory in the South Pole specifically for this planet. But they have no intentions on saving everyone. Only a hand pick few who they feel would have the best attributes for starting a new civilization.

    Apparently every 3,500 years (approx) this ‘secondary solar system’ comes close to earth. Its next pass by earth is expected soon. As a result it could cause the shifting of the magnetic poles that would result in a global earthquake, volcanoes, tsunamis, hurricanes, asteroids, sun flares amongst other disasters to occur. God has always used natural disasters to carry out his judgment against mankind for some reason. Planet X would be exactly what He would use to carry out such destruction. It is speculated that this crossing was also responsible for Noah’s Flood and the sinking of Atlantis. However, people in the know see this cataclysmic event as just a natural disaster they must somehow survive. What they don’t know is that if this happens it is a result of Gods anger and judgment on mankind for their sin.

    What’s really amazing is that there hasn’t been one show or documentation just to entertain us about this cataclysm! It is firmly believed that the government is completely censuring all information and propagating misinformation campaigns against knowing this truth. You should take a look at some videos on You Tube to get an idea of this thing. Keeping in mind I don’t consider You Tube as a good source of information to begin with. Until next time gentlemen…may God have mercy on us all.

  11. This is part 3 of my message;

    This date also is in line with other prophets and cultures most notably the Mayans. What’s interesting about the Mayan calendar is that it doesn’t end on Dec 21, 2012 but on October 28, 2011. There has been a correction to the ‘Long Count’.
    http://www.calleman.com/content/articles/end_of_creationcycles.htm
    I couldn’t figure out the seven day time difference though between the Mayans and the bible. The only thing I could speculate is that seven is God number as if He is saying that He is responsible for this discrepancy for those who choose to believe sources other than the bible. Another spooky coincidence is that Oct. 28, 2011 is a day the Mayans have numbered: 13.0.0.0. The entire Mayan calendar is built on the 13 architecture. What’s amazing about this number is that it is the most significant number in the bible. It represents ‘Super Perfection’. Like the 12 apostles plus Christ. It also represents judgment. The Mayans had no understanding of these biblical meanings. Another coincidence is that it will be the 10th anniversary of the 9/11 disaster. (Notice that number eleven again.) Even the twin towers symbolizing the number eleven. Also there will be exactly 7 Billion people in the year 2011. The number 7 is Gods number representing perfection.

    Now I understand some of what I have just shared with you is purely speculative but the time lines aren’t. If you want to know how we have arrived at these dates, refer to the books I have mentioned. To me it makes perfect sense. All eyes will be looking into the sky on 2012. The surprise will be when God returns for His people in 2011 as He has promised thus fulfilling the scripture that He will come like a thief in the night but only for lost.(1 Th 5:2 to 5:4) God has never destroyed anything with out first warning His people.

    Also in backing up that fact that the church age has been over since 1988 we go to Matthew 24:15:

    When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation (Satan), spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place (The Churches), whoso readeth, let him understand:(Listen Carefully)

    Then let them which be in Judea (True Believers) flee into the mountains (abandon the local congregations and run to Christ):

    Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house: (Do not return)

    Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes. (Do not return)

  12. this is part two of my message:

    If you study the Old and New Testament, you notice that God uses numbers significantly to also represent a spiritual meaning. Thus, words or numbers can have an earthly, literal meaning, and they might also have a spiritual meaning. These are the spiritual meanings established in the bible that God frequently uses through the use of numbers.
    2 – Those who have been commissioned to bring the Gospel
    3 – God’s purpose
    4 – The farthest extent in time or distance that God has in view
    5 – The atonement, which emphasizes both judgment and salvation
    7 – The perfect fulfillment of God’s purpose
    10 – The completeness of whatever is in view
    11 – The first coming of Christ, 11,000 years after creation
    12 – The fullness of whatever is in view
    13 – The end of the world, 13,000 years after creation
    17 – Heaven or going to heaven
    23 – God’s wrath or judgment
    37 – God’s wrath or judgment
    40 – Testing
    43 – God’s wrath or judgment
    Moreover, we have learned from the Bible that if a larger number can be broken down into smaller numbers, each of which has spiritual significance that can help us to understand the spiritual message in the larger number. We can be assured that the larger number is providing significant spiritual information that helps us to understand the context in which it is found.
    In applying this information to time lines we discover something remarkable. If you count the number of days from the Atonement to the Rapture you get exactly 722,500 days. On April 1, 33 A.D., the Lord Jesus was crucified for the sins of those He came to save. Exactly 722,500 days (inclusively) later, the rapture (May 21, 2011) will occur. This number breaks down into the very significant numbers:
    (5 x 10 x 17) x (5 x 10 x 17) = 722,500
    Looking at the chart above we can apply the following;
    (5) = The atonement, which emphasizes both judgment and salvation
    (10) = The completeness of whatever is in view
    (17) = Heaven or going to heaven
    Thus we finally start to see a message emerging saying…
    The work of the atonement (5) is completed (10) when all of the elect are in heaven (17).
    What even more amazing is that this fact is doubled by a repetition of the three numbers, 10 x 5 x 17. This emphasis is, according to Genesis 41:32, “because the thing is established by God, and God will shortly bring it to pass.”
    For example in the Old Testament, Pharaoh dreamed first about seven fat cows that became skinny, and then about seven fat ears of corn that became thin. In connection with this event, God set forth a Biblical principle in Genesis 41:32, where we read:
    And for that the dream was doubled unto Pharaoh twice; it is because the thing is established by God, and God will shortly bring it to pass.
    The law that God sets forth in this verse is that when God doubles a statement, it underscores the absolute truth of it. Whatever will happen is guaranteed to happen, and it will happen soon.
    Can all this be a mere coincidence or is God trying to tell us something? Also notice the parallelism between these two events. Anyone not saved by this date will perish just like anyone who wasn’t in the Ark at that time perished.

  13. Hi again all. Just passing through and read all your comments. Apparently I haven’t been here in over a year and a half. Well I would like to share some more information with all of you that you will find quite interesting. Let me know what you think.

    The bible is a very complex book to understand and interpret correctly. Many times you have to go to the original Hebrew or Greek to find out the context of words. I don’t claim to be an expert on the bible by any means. I have studied for quite a few years. I also have research into non biblical information to find proof that corroborates the bible.

    Many Christians take a scripture and believe it literally. What’s worse than that is they don’t compare it with the rest of the bible. For example, Matthew 24:36 says “No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.” Now how can the son not know what the father knows? They are one of the same! The father, son and the Holy Spirit are a trinity of one. Also if Christ is the one that is returning how can he not know when he is to return? Besides why would God prevent his son from knowing anything? Is he afraid of his son might opening his mouth? Lol. So it must mean something different.

    It actually means to experience his wrath. Jesus did not experience his wrath because he only experienced his wrath for those he died for and he didn’t die for those that will be destroyed in the end. At the very least this scripture is debatable. If you try to compare it with the rest of the bible for example 1 Thessalonians 5 says
    “For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night
    For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
    But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
    Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.
    Therefore let us not sleep, as [do] others; but let us watch and be sober.”

    So obviously it is important to compare a particular scripture with the rest of the bible. The lord will come like a thief in the night ONLY for the lost. Besides the lord has never destroyed anything with out first warning his people beforehand. There are many more scriptures to back this up but it is more involved.

    So if we are to know when he is to return how do we find out? Through out history every one who has claimed to predict the lords’ return has been wrong. So what makes May 21, 2011 right? Well first of all no one could have known because in Daniel 12 he says
    “And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what [shall be] the end of these [things]?
    And he said go thy way, Daniel: for the words [are] closed up and sealed till the time of the end.”

    No one could know the time until the end. Well we are near the end and you don’t have to be Christian to know that! To reinforce this date there are major biblical time line alignments. If you do the math in the Old and New Testament, this is what we find:
    1) It will be exactly 13,023 years from beginning of creation to Oct 21, 2011. The number 23 in the bible has always represented ‘Judgment’ and death. These 23 years of Judgment is the true length of time called the ‘Tribulation Period’ which started in 1988 which also ended the church age.

    2) It will be exactly 7,000 years from the day of the flood to May 21, 2011. Even God said himself in the Old Testament “A day is to a thousand years and a thousand years is to a day” and in seven days I will destroy this world with water” as to suggest that in 7,000 years he will destroy the world again except with fire.

    3) The first Destruction of the world (Noah’s Flood) was exactly 6023 years from creation. (Notice 23 again)

    4) From 33AD (Jesus crucified) to 1988 (beginning of tribulation period) is 1955 years or (5x17x23) Notice 23 again (read the significance of numbers below)

    5) May 21, 2011 is 8400 days from May 21 1988 (beginning of tribulation period) or 23 years.

    The bible mentions in Rev 16:8 a global earthquake that will occur. Just before this earthquake a para-normal event known as the rapture will occur. The day will be May 21, 2011. For 5 months after this earthquake, God is supposed to unleash terrible global catastrophes that will end on Oct 21, 2011. On this date God will destroy this universe with “fervent heat” and create a new one.

    If you read his books “Time has an end” and “We are almost there” you will see how he arrived at these time lines. I did and they are rock solid.

  14. Theology of grace says that God’s love is unearned, unmerited, and for all. The bean-counting about who will be saved and how many not is totally out of line of the new covenant brought by Christ. As Methodists like to say, ‘all need to be saved; all can be saved; all can know they are saved; and all can be saved to the utmost’. And as regards committed non-Christians from other cultures around the world, ‘prevenient grace’ means God’s love for them as His creation, despite their lack of knowledge of scripture.

  15. if anyone out there thinks this is strange please reply: On Nov 10th2008, I bought as usual a national newspaper. Having got to a ‘Life’ section in the middle I turned to a page containing 10 small photographs as well as relevent text. As soon as I looked at the page ,I experienced a strong sense of ‘deja-vu’ – I was sure I’d seen this page within the last month to the point of wondering why they were running it again. A few minutes later my eyes went to the top of the page where the date is printed and to my astonishment read the date as: September19th 2012.
    The newspaper in question have not replied to my letter nor to 3 emails and in the weeks that followed the incident no other readers seem to have spotted the discrepancy. I would like to know whether mine was the only edition – I can’t believe it could be.
    I must point out that if it wasn’t for the ‘deja-vu’ I felt (strongly) I would probably dismiss it as just a ‘gremlin’ but all the same….2012….mmmm

  16. Stop thinking so hard and praying so hard and worrying so hard and arguing so hard. What does it matter if the Bible is all completely true or not? The most important thing at this time is to live life in grace and hunility, with love, compassion, forgiveness, and kindeness. Be honest and patient, share what you have, do quiet acts of good and live totally in the moment- the NOW. Be sensitive to the energies and what is happening around you and show yourself, other humans, animals, and our beautiful enviorment the highest love and respect. That is all that matters, the rest will take care of itself…..and also important- live you life with fun and a sense of humour!

  17. How do you know if everything in the bible is even true? I heard that when they were writing the old testament, that there were at least 30 different scriptures and recollections of Jesus, but that only 4 made it into the book. It seems like when the bible was being written, that certain things were picked and chosen, while other scriptures were put on the chopping block.

  18. How about the 1260 days of the two witnesses? The timeframe presented in this theory does not allow sufficient time for that prophecy to be fulfilled either.

  19. While the theories presented sound plausible, as it relates to Biblical prophecy, my only concern is that there is of yet to be fulfilled the prophecies spoken of in Revelations regarding the anti-christ, the beast, beheading of believers, the mark, and a number of other relevant prophecies. Will, can you please provide explanation? Thanks, and God Bless.

  20. Well I agree with a bit of O, James Young, Metro Stae Atheists and Banana!
    If you take a bit of each- there is some balance to be found. Science/ spirituality/ common sence and a sense of homour! And Will, you really need to chill out and cheer up- you make God sound like some egoistic tyrant- which he is not. The fact is there are many changes taking place in the world now and since time began, it’s just accelerating faster now, and many of us feel that something big is imminant.
    I beieve that The Mayan Calendar is linked to earth and universal energy shifts and when these occur. There are also many synchronises with many other calendars, other ancient civilizations, man made religions and their “holy” books, and prophesies.
    The calendar ends in 2011- what does this mean? End of the world? End of civilization as we know it? Beginning of an enlightened golden age? Life carrying on the same and a new cycle starting all over again. The truth is no one really knows, but we all have our beliefs and theories.
    But whatever these are- the message is the same- to align ourselves to whatever is supposed to happen, we are supposed to lead a good healthy life- in humility, grace and with a sense of humour! And that to me is the best part of all this- whatever your beliefs are- just live a good, productive and honest life, hurting no one, and practicing good moral value, showing love, respect, kindness and compassion to all- other humans, animals and nature and the earth in general.
    And | defy anyone to tell me what’s wrong with that no matter what happens??!!
    x

  21. JY, I really appreciate your comments.I am a Christian, but I don’t think that my soul will be floating in Limbo while the Good Lord decides if I am groveling and repenting well enough to get an e-ticket to heaven punched.

    However, I have always been confused about a few things. The scripture you’ve quoted indicates that God will only give salvation to those that believe in Jesus Christ, and those that don’t are condemned “because he has not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son.”

    This indicates salvation only for Christians, which has never made any sense to me. Why would God choose to save only a small population? The tenets of Christianity promote love and understanding of your fellow man, not hatred of non-Christians. Let’s say 1 billion people out of 7 billion cut the mustard. Does He relinquish 6 billion souls to Hell? Or do these souls just cease to exist? If the universe is destroyed by God, does everything in Heaven and Hell cease to exist as well? What about “eternal” salvation? (or damnation?)

    Do we really believe that acetic monks living in Nepal are condemned to burn in Hell for eternity simply because they don’t believe in Jesus Christ? Men who live their lives every day peacefully, dedicated to God and worship, prayer and meditation, caring for the sick and poor?

    Meanwhile greedy Americans that eat too much food and are way too occupied with material things get to go to heaven because they are believers and always have been? (And yes, I’m one of them)

    To me, when God created men in his own image, he must have included all these faults and shortcomings. Thus, he should forgive these defects when passing judgment.

    I have also always been baffled when people seem to think they have the wisdom to understand the mind of God, what he wants for us and what he does not. One might point to the Bible, not a bad idea, as the only reliable source of God’s intentions and will. However, we must remember that the Bible was written by men, who we know are fallible.

  22. Does it really matter if the dates are exact or the times are out a little, what really matters is that it shows us that there is a change happening all around us right now and we can participate in it or not. I think we are all aware of the change in energy that is taking place and that time seems to be going faster. So maybe the universe is trying to wake us up, to help us get out of our egos and to see who we really are. We are all so caught up in being right. I think its time to let it all go.
    The beauty of what I have read is that creation has a plan that it is following and all I have to do is let go and just be.

  23. It’s my bday too. I think we could only be so lucky if this were all to occur in our lifetimes. Maybe all man-created things will return to the earth. That is the final destination of everything after all.

  24. No, a working knowledge of chemistry and physics makes me more advanced than the Mayans.

  25. To Will, I can see that you are very fundamentalist in your belief system. Not to be too sarcastic, but you need to return to the fundamentals of the Christian faith, “salvation”. You are very good at calculating the numbers and seem to be interested in heralding this to all. In all of your heralding, remember the scriptures, John 3:16″For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son,[f] that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. 18Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son.”. ‘Whoever believes in him is not condemned’, why do you not preach this statement over your previous, “epent and accept Jesus Christ for the atonement of your sins. It doesn’t mean he will save you but it puts you in a good predicament in the eyes of the Lord where he might find compasion for you.”, or “Cry to the Lord for mercy and repent of your sins. Then wait patiently for the Lords decision.” I personally think that the actual scripture that says “whosoever believes in Him” kinda covers all the “whosoever’s” out there. You might want to rethink your approach to apologetics. I don’t mean to seem so abrupt but it kinda erks me that a “Christian” trying to teach others anything about the Bible would say such vile things and devalue what Christ did on the cross. You are essentially saying that when Jesus said, “it is finished”, he really meant to say, “well, I’m not so sure about you buddy, keep on beggin’ for a while and maybe I’ll let you in”. Just a thought.

  26. Just because you can order pizza with one hand and switch TV channels with the other hand, while laying down on your sofa doesn’t make you intellectually more advanced then a Mayan.

  27. Theses calenders were used to measure real time, not “spiritual time,” which is as meaningless a phrase as “spiritual lobster” or “spiritual gravity.” Similar calendars occur in distance and divided cultures becuase they are basing their calenders on the same thing, i.e., the motions of heavenly bodies and the seasons. After being spiced up by the religious and cultural beliefs of the day, we arrive at what we observe of their labors today. Also, this idea that the Mayan’s were so totally advanced that they managed to predict the end times when our scientists, engineers, and philosophers failed to do so seems absurd. The advancements required to accomplish what those ancient societies did pales in comparison to the complexity of engineering a single computer chip. We are more advanced, technologically and intellectually, in every possible way. Much more. Perhaps we are not “spiritually advanced,” though. Maybe if I go have some “spiritual coffee,” watch some “spiritual TV,” and then have a satisfying spiritual BM, this notion of 2012 might come to me in an epiphany…but I doubt it (see how putting spiritual in front of everything doesn’t necessarily make it deep, rational, or sensible?). If the world ends on 2012, it will be becuase we end it.

  28. Hi,
    2012 is not the END as perceived by the WORLD!!!
    2012 is the MAJOR CHANGE Year & the NEW Beginnings in our lives may be initiated, which eventually will become known to our Conscious Beings.

    Look around and there is CHANGE happening; in Individual’s Life (Thinking Pattern, Living, Emoting Levels, Networking Collective Consciousness,…)

    So I present an APPEAL to ALL
    to Participate in the Movement to make it HAPPEN
    For We are the Molders of OUR DESTINY
    In our HANDS LIES the POWER TO CHANGE…
    Collective Efforts bring MAJOR CHANGE RAPIDLY!!!

    THINK & ACT NOW!

    AN END may be the BEND OF THE ROAD Which We are Still not able to see till NOW!

    An APPEAL

    An Appeal to all the responsible WORLD CITIZENS
    If the presented idea resonates with your Being in any way, please pass on the Message
    Also I would insist Whether you BELIEVE or NOT…
    Spread this Message as a Responsible WORLD CITIZEN for the Movement to gain momentum & herald the Change

    Let’s Call Upon LIGHT to lead us from Darkness unto LIGHT…

    LET US ALL PARTICIPATE IN THE WORLD MOVEMENT OF LIGHT CHANNELS

    For more info please visit:

    http://www.lightchannels.com
    http://www.lightdivine.blogspot.com
    http://www.lightdivine.ning.com

    Thanks in advance,
    Love & Light to all Alike
    O

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  30. Hello again my friends. Hope all is well. Just passing by to see any new comments. In response to Jane clothiers comment about a massive waterfall killing everyone on Oct. 22nd and 23rd of 2011. We don’t really know what happens after Oct. 21, 2011 because that seems to be the official last day of this universe. Refer to my previous comments that explain why this end date was established. As previously mentioned, the Mayan calender does not end on Dec 21, 2012 but on Oct 28, 2011 which will be exactly seven days after the expected end date. I could only speculate that if it took God seven days to create the universe it will take seven to destroy it. There are some interesting facts I recently discovered that seem to fall in line with this time. These are just curiosities at best. For example the world population will be exactly 7 billion by the year 2011. It will be the 10th anniversary of the 9/11 disaster. The twin towers symbolizing the number 11 again in an uncanny way. Now I have learned that the atom collider in Switzerland has finally finished and has started experiments already. What really caught my attention is that they had said their findings could take a few years to process in answering the origins of the universe. Timing impeccable again. Then there is Planet X again that lumes over us.

    Everything seems to culminate to this 2011 year for some reason. Again its purely speculation. The thing is what can one do to prepare for this? The answer is nothing. From before the foundations of time, the Lord had already predestined who will be given eternal life. You could only cry to the Lord to have mercy on you. It doesn’t mean He will say you but it puts you in a good predicament in the eyes of the Lord. This global earthquake that is expected on May 21, 2011 is going to be the 9/11 disaster on a global scale. Whats interesting is that the main reason for this earthquake is to unearth the bodies of the dead unsaved from their tombs to the earth surface to be desecrated like dung for all to see the anger of God. I could only imagine the hopelessness of this situation. Well based on my counter there is only: 978 days 23,484 hours 1,409,088 minutes left before May 21, 2011. This will have to stand the test of time. Until next time may God be with you all.

  31. Why do we frustrate ourselves with vien theories? God has made Himself visible through Jesus Christ and has made His words clear through His Prophets and Apostiles. None of this matters what will happen.

    The Question is Are your sins washed away?

    Are you saved,that’s the most important question for you to ask yourself if all this matters to you.

  32. I let u know that I had dreaming last Saturday night about massive waterfall came over us to kill us all on 22nd to 23rd October 2011 I dont know why but feel its real what u think? thanks

  33. Hello again my friends. I was passing by to view any comments I might have received. Greg, its good to see you are a true brother. As you know there is less than 35 months left before judgment day.

    It seems that the Lord has revealed another revelation from the bible. The scripture that makes note of the 200,000,000 who will be raptured on May 21, 2011. Harold Camping has mentioned this as you know. I don’t know that scripture off hand. Next time I come back I promise to share it. It sounds like allot but when you compare it to the 7,000,000,000 people on this earth that only 3% of the population! Or 1 in 35 people will be saved! It’s almost incomprehensible!

    My initial reaction was why would God destroy so many men, women and children? You only need to look at the old testament to answer that question. For one when God destroyed the world with the flood. Only Noah’s family was saved. The other countless millions were destroyed. Then there is Daniel. God had commanded him and his army to cut to pieces entire cities with their swords including every man, women and child. Could you imagine how gruesome that must have been? And the bad part isn’t that they died a horrible death but that they had lost their inheritance which was eternal life! In the new testament God makes mention of saving a ‘remnant’ for himself and how many will be lost and few will find the way. There is plenty of biblical passages that keep reinforcing the fact that God intends on destroying most people. The only consolation for the unsaved is that they will cease to exist. They will never suffer or know what they have missed. It’s actually very merciful at the same time it is an ENORMOUS loss to be missing out on the eternal pleasures of heaven.

    How are you Abysmal? I see you are having trouble believing in the bible. It is true that it was put together by the many hands of individuals. The truth of the matter is that it has never been proven wrong to date. Archaeologists swear by it to help them discover things. The most difficult part of the bible is Genesis 1:1…”In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.” If you could get past that scripture, the rest is easy. lol.

    If God could speak the universe into existing, I’m sure He would have no trouble establishing His infallible Word through the hands of man. As for the Mayans, they were just able to read the stars which God had created. Since God is mathematically perfect it’s no wonder that He has allowed us to be able to read the heavens.

    No one will ever be able to prove that God does exist. That’s why it’s called faith. It’s no accident that God has intentionally made himself invisible to mankind just as He has made the bible incredibly difficult to interpret correctly. He has nothing to prove to anyone. In fact when Judgment day comes billions will die with out even knowing if God even exists let alone understand that they have been judged. Does it really matter that mankind understand his demise anyway? No because after they die they will cease to exist. If anything it’s merciful not to let them know what they have missed. This concept of a Judgment hearing after everyone dies is a misunderstanding of judgment day. Well I could chat more but I am on my way to Miami for my Independence Day vacation week. When I get back I will check in to see how everybody is doing. Until next time, God bless.

  34. Will i’ve been listening to Family Radio in South Africa for the past 4 and a 1/2 years, and checked all Scriptures and can’t find anything to the contrary…!

    21 May 2011 to 21 October 2011 is indeed the last days of this universe.

    May God havc mercy on each one of us!

  35. interesting speculation – Alan Moore proposed in his graphic novel “Promethea” that the so-called end of the world is a drawn-out moment of mass-rapture, as if everyone on earth reaches nirvana simultaneously – this doesn’t that everyone’s ready for it, nor that you don’t have to go back to work the next day – but more that it’s a paradigm shift on a global level.

    As for the numerology in the bible – that’s a rabbit hole that goes very very deeply indeed.

    However, as the Old Testament was a series of oral tales, and there is no evidence for a historical “Jesus” person, I have a heavy dose of skepticism about the timing according to the bible.

    One thing I found most fascinating about the Maya and the Vedic Indians, is that they both considered gestation as a crucial time period – the Maya’s 260-tzolkin calendar is meant to track the time of gestation, and provide a fundamental paradigm for all levels of time – Ayurvedic medicine uses the tridoshas as one of its fundamental definitions of body type – they are the three embryonic membranes that form during gastrolation (after day 13 from conception) and form all of our various body tissues in different proportions.

    neato benito.

  36. How are you I ‘m new to this forum. Will I am familiar with Family Radio teaching for the Last 7 years. I too have studied and have much to share.. It’s time my brother I’m trying to understand what exactly is going to take place here spritually and physically. The world is in a heap of trouble it is time to repent! And if God Wills He can save you if you are his elect.

  37. Even though I only believe what the bible has to say about end time events, I like to research into non biblical information that seemingly corroborates the bible. For example, I recently discovered an event to come that would fulfill all the prophecies of Judgment Day in the bible. In 1983 NASA has published an article in the Washington Post that they have discovered a ‘Planet X’ in an elongated orbit around our solar system. http://www.planet-x.150m.com/washpost.html. Whats very suspicious is they immediately recanted their find claiming it was a mistake. If this does happen it would destroy everything on earth! That being the case, the implications of allowing the public to know about this would only bring about panic. There would be no way of any government to keep there powers intact after such a catastrophe. It is also believed that all world governments are preparing themselves to survive this event even as we speak and even built a observatory in the south pole specifically for this planet. But they have no intentions on saving everyone. Only a hand pick people few who they feel would have the best attributes for starting a new civilization.
    Apparently every 3,600 years (approx) this ‘secondary solar system’ comes close to earth. Its next pass by earth is expected between 2010 and 2012. As a result will cause the shifting of the magnetic poles that would result in a global earthquakes, volcanoes, tsunamis, hurricanes, asteroids, sun flares amongst other disasters to occur. God has always used natural disasters to carry out his judgment against mankind for some reason. Planet X would be exactly what He would use to carry out such destruction. It is speculated that this crossing was also responsible for Noah’s Flood exactly 7000 years ago. Apparently the sleeping prophet Edgar Cayce predicted the pole shifting also at that time. However, people in the know see this cataclysmic event as just a natural disaster they must somehow survive. What they don’t know is that if this happens it is a result of Gods anger and judgment on mankind for their sin. All this will begin on May 21, 2011 until October 21, 2011. The bad news isn’t that the unsaved will suffer a horrible and shameful death but that after they die they will have lost their inheritance which was eternal life. The only consolation is they will not be tormented in hell for eternity. All the descriptions of hell in the bible was symbolic for eternal death. You must read this book if you have questions. Cry to the Lord for mercy and repent of your sins. Then wait patiently for the Lords decision. There is exactly 3 years from today left. I hoped I have been informative. I will check in again soon. God bless.

    • The IRAS Incident
      Many people, including Mr. Hazlewood, claim that NASA actually sighted Planet X in 1983, and it was reported in the Washington Post! The article claims that two scientists named Neugebauer and Houck used the Infrared Astronomy Satellite (called IRAS) and found a Jupiter-sized object a few billion kilometers out from the Sun.
      This turns out not to be the case. Rather than rely on the accuracy of a newspaper article (and you can find out how accurate those are elsewhere on this site) I did something that never occurred to the doomsayers: I sent an email to the two astronomers asking what happened back in ’83. Gerry Neugebauer replied, and told me the real poop.

      IRAS was designed to look in the far-infrared, well past what our eyes see. At the time, no one was really sure what it would find. To everyone’s surprise, several bright point sources were found that did not correspond to anything seen on optical images taken of the same areas. In the press conference, the two scientists said that these objects could be almost anything, from a tenth planet in our solar system to distant galaxies.

      Guess which it turned out to be? Sure enough, much deeper images were taken, and some of the objects were found to be dense gas clouds in our own Galaxy, while others turned out to be very distant galaxies. In fact, these observations heralded the discovery of a new type of object: Ultra-luminous Infrared Galaxies (ULIRGs). These are galaxies in which there is a burst of stars being born. The cocoons of dust in which the stars are enshrouded generates copious infrared, which is what was detected by IRAS. They published these results in the prestigious Astrophysical Journal, and you can even read it yourself.

      So IRAS did not see Nibiru, Planet X, or anything of the sort, despite the claims of the doomcriers. Of course, they now claim that NASA is clamping down on the press for Planet X. The original Post article, they say, was hastily retracted due to pressure from the NASA thugs. Of course, the doomcriers have absolutely no evidence of this (because, of course, this claim is wrong), but they continue to state it as if it is fact. It is nothing of the sort. They like to make claims like this for many reasons: it generates an “us vs. them” mentality, which is great for conspiracies, and it helps sell books and/or videos. But it’s wrong at best and a lie at worst.

      A good page with a lot of detail about the IRAS observations is written by Tom Chester, an astronomer on the original IRAS team that found the mystery sources. Straight from the horse’s mouth, if you will.

  38. Hello guys! I was just browsing the internet to find out more information about Judgment Day when I accidentally stumbled across my own comment on this site. lol. Please forgive me for the neglect. I see I had some replies from from certain individuals. In response to Marks comments I would like to reply. Long story short, if you do the math in the bible to establish time lines you arrive at the dates I have stated. The bible is a very complex book to understand. If you are really interested in understanding how exactly we have arrived at this, you must read the book “Time has an end” by Harold Camping. He breaks it down in terms the average person can understand. Here is a link showing these time lines from the book I have just stated.
    http://www.finalharvest.com/Final%20Harvest/quicktimeline.html

  39. do you all re-read things you write? (pls not an insult). but how couldd you believe these, i mean i believe in paranormal things and all but not this..’will’ was calculating judgement date( who told you those dates and who is the mortal that certified them) thats like predicting the alleged rapture date which jesus couldnt and saying tribulation stated 1988, i thought it happened long ago when josephus antiq(cant recall his name ) took over the temple in jerusalem thus fulfillin as they say, ”the abomination that maketh desolate”. pls this things are pure lies or misunderstood article and by the way, this people change a lot of things while interpreting ancient documents..mayans dont write 1,2,3..they write *,&,%, so there’s bound to be misinterpretation….and i like cam’ron,,the calenda just recycles, all the way. no end of times in sight yet,,live on

  40. Hello kg
    The dates that I posted were found in Calleman’s book. The link is in the first sentence of the post. However, that being said, when you are trying to determine an exact date for a time period that may be years in length I doubt you can really be very precise. I’d start paying attention…..now!
    Om shanti.

  41. @ will;; i would love to know how you came up with your dates. how does anyone know the date of Adam and Eve’s creation??

  42. Hi guys. Whats interesting about the Mayan calender ending on October 28, 2011 is that it is in line with biblical predictions of the end of time on October 21, 2011. The basis for this date called “Judgement Day” is as follows:
    1) It will be exactly 13, 023 years from the creation of Adam and Eve to Oct 21, 2011. The number 23 in the bible has always represented ‘Judgement’. These 23 years of Judgement is the true length of time called the ‘Tribulation Period’ which started in 1988.
    2) It wll be exactly 7,000 years from the day of the flood to Oct 21, 2011. Even God said himself in the old testament “A day is to a thousand years and a thousand years is to a day and in seven days I will destroy this world with water”. so as to suggest in 7,000 years he will destroy the world again except with fire.
    3) It will be exactly 2,000 years from the true birth of christ to Oct 21, 2011.
    The bibles mentions a global earthquake that will occur on May 21, 2011 which is when the rapture is suppose to occur. For 5 months after this earthquake, God is suppose to unleash terrible global catastrophes that will end on Oct 21, 2011. On this date God will destroy this universe with “fervent heat”. It turns out that scientists say due to the alignment of the sun, earth and milky way in that year will cause the shifting of the magnetic poles that can result in a global earthquake , amungst other disasters, to occur. God has always used natural disasters to carry out his judgement against mankind for some reason. I couldnt figure out the seven day time difference though between the Maynas and the bible. The only thing I could speculate is that if it took God seven days to create the universe it will take seven days to destroy it. Another spooky coincidence is that Oct. 21, 2011 is a day the Mayans have numbered:
    13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13. Whats amazing about this number is that it is the most significant number in the bible. It represents ‘Super Perfection’. Like the 12 apostles plus Christ. The number 10 in the bible always represents completeness. So the Mayans number 13 ten times would represent “Super Perfection in all its completeness” or you could simply say “It is finished”. The Mayans had no understanding of these biblical meanings. Why is God doing all this? Because man was created in His image and likeness and in so doing has held us responsible for ‘ALL’ our actions. The penalty of sin is death. The only way one can attain eternal life is to cry to the Lord for mercy. To repent and accept Jesus Christ for the atonement of your sins. It doesn’t mean he will save you but it puts you in a good predicament in the eyes of the Lord where he might find compasion for you. Until this date I wish you well.

    • will.you are on the exact same path I am on even with the checking into other think\gs. I couldnt figure out the 7 days difference but I knew since it was 7 it was significant. I think you got it
      There is something else. I got the kolbrin bible that talks about the time of moses, aparently this planet-x was around then and so was YAHWEH.

  43. Yes. There are many different ways to track and measure time. What many who came before have discovered is that scheduling activities according to the Lunar Cycle will keep us all ‘on time’, all of the time. We all see the same moon.

    Thanks for your thoughful comment.

  44. This looks like a fascinating book! Thank you for bringing it to our attention. And I didn’t know there were such connections between Vedic and Mayan cultures. I was aware of the similarities between pyramids like the picture you posted, and the Egyptian pyramids–again half a world away. The concept of “spiritual time” gave me goosebumps. As the “time” gets closer, I am aware of rumblings in the “force”, so to speak.
    I grew up in San Francisco, and although the Gregorian calendar in use everywhere now was the main one we followed, I knew many people who additionally followed the Hebrew or Chinese calendars, so I’ve had some exposure to other ancient ones. It does put things into perspective. It’s very hard to “match” dates from two different systems, as we in the west are wont to do. Thanks for sharing this, & peace to you.

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